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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210578
Right I'll have another go.  Last time it disappeared!

I'm looking to be quite specific - 
  

Or this if it had a lighter interior - 
 

The Lotus was a Elan +2 S 130/5.  Bought off the original owner having had a £25000 restoration.  (Allegedly) 
Unfortunately it had been appallingly bodged by "Marque Specialists"  and the old owner lied through his teeth!
Sad really It took 2 years and another £5K to sort.  
It did go very well then and if an F / TF handles and rides anywhere near as well I'll be impressed!  
 

 

As it happens the wheelbase and tracks are quite close to the F, its wider at the back and has a rear weight bias!   And very sensitive to setup.  A poorly sorted Elan is nasty.
https://lotuselan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45358

How can such a basically simple thing be so competent?
Or the famous Twink engine 1960's 
130bhp  -  1600  -  howl to 7000 easy.   Yet economical if you are easy.  On fat webers and contact breaker ignition?(Admit it leaked a bit !)
 
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210582

"Keep calm, relax, focus on the problem & PULL THE BLOODY TRIGGER"

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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210587
There are some nice pictures here, not forgetting Cobbers contribution, sadly I have zero knowledge on TA22s Toyota. If you have the slightest interest in cars & are of pensionable age then the memory of Colin Chapman will shine bright. For the few who need reminding, he is the patron Saint of Adding Lightness. With the drift away from common sense in modern car design, where adding weight to accommodate the fripperies of the wealthy owners, requires an engine whose horse power is on a par with submarine, this deity, like St Christopher has been side lined.
An Elan stood head & shoulders above anything being produced, anywhere, at the time, you have been fortunate to have owned one. Even if it took time & money to get it sorted. That under bonnet picture is a Picture, glorious in every way. Thank you.
Anyway as an f owner I would be drawn to the f, pictured, although the tf is a lovely looking beast.
Cobbers check list is of great value, the greatest tool in tour armoury is vigilance, followed by common sense & a Pscan is in valuable also.
I have had access to a Rovacom until recently, living with me for a while, now sadly gone, a Pscan will be ordered shortly.
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210611
Many thanks Cobber. Chap who is a Twink race engine expert on Elan.net was (is) an Aussie. We had many a chat. (Even if a bit one way!)
Where do I find the online manual? 
Any idea what the vehicle 2nd in the 2nd image is?   
Wonder what a sparkly Lotus 11 is worth these days.   One of my favourite articles - https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28512925/the-legend-of-the-lotus-eleven/
  
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210612
It's a twink. Did not stay pristine for long. Thanks anyway.
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210613
Many thanks for the kind responses people.  I'll ask opinions of some of the available possibilities in a new post.  Apologies if they belong to members!
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210617
Can I offer a note on site etiquette; when dealing with our antipodean friends. You kindly refers to your Australian friend as a “Chap”, unfortunately Cobber informs us & quite forcefully, they are not chaps but Blokes.
It is a mistake I have made on any number of times & he won’t let me get away with it.
However if you wish to use “chap” please go ahead, it’ll take the pressure off me.
Oh, welcome aboard. 
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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210618

ToadKeeper post=210611 userid=26232Many thanks Cobber. Chap who is a Twink race engine expert on Elan.net was (is) an Aussie. We had many a chat. (Even if a bit one way!)
Where do I find the online manual? 
Any idea what the vehicle 2nd in the 2nd image is?   
Wonder what a sparkly Lotus 11 is worth these days.   One of my favourite articles - https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28512925/the-legend-of-the-lotus-eleven/
  

I'm not sure about the car rolling about like a labrador on a fresh cut lawn, is in the background of the 2nd pic, possibly and old Simca from what I can make out of the grille shape, but the track is Winton Raceway in rural Victoria, and given that the race had a mixed field of touring and sports cars in was probably the Winton 6 Hour which was a relay race of 3 car teams, the Lotus was a DNF as per usual.
I seem to recall a small stone managed to get sucked into one of the Weber carburetors and as the saying goes "That knackered that sketch!"

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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210626

Where do I find the online manual? 

David Aiketgate replied:-
Have a look in the  Library, Downloads section. Technical manuals.  Click here.  You'll find the MGF, MGTF, and MGTF (09 on) workshop manuals.

 

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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210687
I understand your choice (LOL). Color combinations are very subjective and can make a huge difference in personal appeal. The nice thing about these cars is that they came in a wide assortment of color combinations. The choice of MGF vs MG TF is also personal. MGFs were somewhat better built but lack some of the technical improvements of the MGFs. Trophy models are probably the best compromise but they did not come in the color combinations you want. Keep in mind there were Mk1 and Mk2 MGFs if that is what you want. The Abingdon and 75th anniversary special editions came in the color combinations that you like (although I think the shade of green might be a bit darker).

Rebuilt hydragas spheres for MGFs are available, they are just expensive, although it is probably not that much worse than any other suspension refurbishment.

Take your time in finding the right car. The issues are overblown. This site has invaluable 'how to guides' that will explain how to do it yourself. A lot of the smaller stuff is easy to do. These cars are well understood by now, so most 'issues' are easy to identify and prevent. They are sort of modern and vintage at the same time. If you look after them, they are quite reliable. Most parts are easy to find (except a few) and inexpensive. There is a lot of great advice on this site on how to improve the original design as well (in terms of handling, comfort, reliability etc.).

I would strongly recommend asking here when inspecting any potential car, You will get a lot of experienced advice and useful pointers! Just be sure to share photos as it is easier to understand. 

I would also recommend the Restoration Guide by Roger Parker. It is a great resource. The Buyer Guide book by comparison is useless.  

Noce Lotus BTW. the 2+2 is one of my favorite models!

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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210689
As it happens an "anniversary" is one that I am interested in.   -  https://www.gumtree.com/p/mg/mg-mgtf-convertible-2004-manual-1796-cc-2-doors/1487487981
Looks very like yours - same car?
You would be just the man to ask -  does the light tan /beige covered dashboard top reflect in the screen?  It looks like it here or is that just the camera angle? 
     

What do you think of the car on offer?

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Posted 1 year 6 months ago #210707
Thats a well presented interior. Good colours, decent alcantara inlay seats plus the relatively rare wood effect dash and steering wheel.
 

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