I have to disagree, Honda are extremely well made, I have had a Civic 1.8 ivtec for thelast 9 years and covered 140,000 miles trouble free in that time, serviced by me since the warranty ran out, failed last mot on a drop link, usual tyre brake etc replacement but that's all, when Honda had a link with Rover all the Honda cars were meticulously checked by Honda engineers before release, no so much for the Rover, I was a Control Engineer for Rover managing the PLC controlled plant in No2 & 3 paint shops and I saw the day to day running, if Rover had stayed in bed with Honda they would have made some stonking cars (not that they didn't) but they build quality would have been first class rather than questionable. Ufortunately the government and Bae decided to sell it to BMW And it went down hill from there (I saw it all ) Their bombs missed it the war but they kill it in the end (Not that I'm bitter )The Honda Jizz and the like are nothing more than automotive white goods, as exciting as a washing machine but nowhere near as exciting as a fridge..........at least the fridge keeps the beer cold!