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I was going to say they all had engines , specifically all alloy engines, but not absolutely sure about the XPAG/XPEG and if the 800 refers to the Honda/Rover KV6.

KentJohn wrote: wrote:

They are all cars with 4 wheels?! LOL!

MartinW wrote: wrote:

I was going to say they all had engines , specifically all alloy engines, but not absolutely sure about the XPAG/XPEG and if the 800 refers to the Honda/Rover KV6.

Its a simple answer, but not that simple Sorry Martin, you're barking up the wrong tree there.

They have all been used by Police forces in the UK

Welcome back Mr Forgetful and what a storming return! I don't think the new TF was used in the UK, but has indeed been used by the Chinese as a police car.

Can't find any pics of MG TA,B&C, but here is a pretty comprehensive list .

Old TF


New TF in China


MGA


MGB V8


Rover 2000


Rover 3500


Rover 3500 V8


Rover 800

Thank you Miss Tui

I have been watching your on stage bravissimo performance from “behind the curtain” for some while and had almost given up hope of finding an answer to one of your conundrums. I was a little unprepared at being correct so I hope this “back of an envelope” question might prove worth it:-

2 OBE’s, 2MC’s, a “sounds like” an American WW11 aeroplane, soup, a sort of sweet and there is also Magic to boot,

What are the links (briefly) to MG?

Mr Forgetful wrote: wrote:

Thank you Miss Tui

I have been watching your on stage bravissimo performance from “behind the curtain” for some while and had almost given up hope of finding an answer to one of your conundrums.

...Says the king of conundrums himself!

Mr Forgetful wrote: wrote:

2 OBE’s, 2MC’s, a “sounds like” an American WW11 aeroplane, soup, a sort of sweet and there is also Magic to boot,

What are the links (briefly) to MG?

My knowledge of American aircraft is not great and from looking into the topic, there are far too many for me to try and find a link to which one you might be referring to I am also finding difficulty finding the 'soup' link, but a sort-of-sweet and magic I can do!

Captain George Edward Thomas Eyston (OBE, MC, Legion d'honneur) broke dozens of speed records at Brooklands, Montlhery, Pendine Sands, & Bonneville Salt Flats, in cars ranging in size from 750cc M.G.'s to the 5,000 b.h.p. Thunderbolt.

On 22nd December 1931, the M.G. "Magic Midget" EX127 was taken to Montlhery, and set Class H records of 114.77 mph over 5 kms, 114.74 mph over 5 miles, 114.72 mph over 10 kms, and 114.46 mph over 10 miles.
On 8th February 1932, Eyston drove the 750cc supercharged "Magic Midget", at a Class H record speed of 118.39 miles per hour at Pendine Sands.
On 13th December 1932, driving "Magic Midget", he became the first man to drive a course at two miles per minute in a 'baby' car. Class H records were established at 120.56 mph over 1 km & 1 mile, 120.52 mph over 5 kms & 116.7 mph over 5 miles, & 117.42 mph over 10 kms.
On 21st/22nd December 1932, the "Magic Midget" driven by Eyston & Denly set more records over 200 kms, 200 miles, 3 hours, 500 kms, & 12 hours.

In October 1934, a striped 1100cc supercharged MG EX135 nicknamed "Humbug", set 12 class records at Montlhery, including a class record speed of 128.69 miles per hour.

Other links to MG:
On 31st December 1930, he drove an unsupercharged M.G.Midget EX120 at the Montlhery circuit in France. Class H (750cc) records were set for 50 kms at 86.38 mph, 50 miles at 87.11 mph, 100 kms at 87.30 mph.
Returning to Montlhery, on 9th February 1931, he drove the now supercharged 743cc M.G. to Class H records over 5 kms, 5 miles, 10 kms & 10 miles. Then, on 16th February, Class H record speeds were raised to 103.13 mph over 5 kms, 102.76 mph over 5 miles, 102.43 mph over 10 kms, & 101.86 mph over 10 miles. At Brooklands on 13th March 1931, further records were set at 97.09 mph over the flying kilometre & 96.93 mph over the mile.
On 25th September 1931, driving EX120 at Montlhery, he achieved an average speed of 101.1 mph for 1 hour, as well as Class H records over 50 kms, 50 miles, 100 kms & 100 miles.
Sometime between 13th and 21st December 1932, he drove a J3 M.G. Midget to Class H records over 1000 miles, 2000 kms, & 24 hours.
In October 1933, at Montlhery, he set up 6 class records in a M.G.Magna car, with co-drivers Denly, T.H.Wisdom, & R.A.Yallop. These were 12 hours - avg.81.23 mph, 1000 miles - 81.25mph, 2000km - 80.75mph, 3000km - 80.57mph, 2000 miles - 80.49mph, and 24 hours - 80.56mph.
Driving the 1500cc MG EX179 at Bonneville in 1954, with co-driver Ken Miles, they set 8 international & 28 national records, including the flying 10 miles at a 153.69 average miles per hour, and a 12-Hour average speed of 120.87 miles per hour.

So the Rover 200 should have been 2000 (but I see it's been editted), although 200s were used as Panda cars, and the Police also used MGAs, MGBs and MGB GTs in addition to the V8, whilst the ZT was also used by the Northern Ireland constabulary, iirc, and a ZT-T was trialled around Birmingham as a rapid response ambulance. The most famous BMC police car would be the Wolseley of the 50s.

WWII (not WW11 I suspect) US aeroplane...Mustang. The engine used in the MG ZT 260 and SV?

MartinW wrote: wrote:

So the Rover 200 should have been 2000 (but I see it's been editted), although 200s were used as Panda cars, and the Police also used MGAs, MGBs and MGB GTs in addition to the V8, whilst the ZT was also used by the Northern Ireland constabulary, iirc, and a ZT-T was trialled around Birmingham as a rapid response ambulance. The most famous BMC police car would be the Wolseley of the 50s.

Yes, well done Martin, you spotted my mistake I left out a '0' but Mr Forgetful was still able to answer the question with the wrong info! The ZT is still being used as a police car, so I left it off the list to try and through you all off the trail! And the Wolseley isn't an MG, so wasn't on my list

And neither are the Rovers MGs, but I was wondering if the 200 should have been 2000 when I was thinking alloy engines or OHC engines. The Wolseley was more closely related to an MG than the Rovers you mentioned, the Z Magnettes were based on the same design as the Wolseley.

My apologies in that my answer should have said Police forces. (Not UK)

Tui - you have half the answer in Captain George Edward Thomas Eyston MC,OBE, Magic (as in Magic Midget) and WW2 American Aircraft Thunderbolt
Now the link with the other half of the conundrum (and also the MC and OBE) is a "sounds like" soup manufacturer. Get that (and thus the timeline) and I think you will crack it and thus the link between the two.

I hope I'm not being presumptious but here are some extra clues for Tui to complete her answer

MC - son died following in his footsteps

Sweet - think toffee and White Cliffs of Dover

Soup - Think Andy Warhol