Suplex Suspension - How to fit.(But Don't!)

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Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46405
Excellent news :yesnod:

for you......

could be bad news for me when I tell the missus I WANT these :lol:
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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46406
I've amended my instructions to include my findings regarding the spacer and added information about lowering pins.

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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46435
THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO! says it all, great news. you should never leave bits out !!!!! :whistle:

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Replied by MGF MARK on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46492

bryan young wrote: you should never leave bits out !!!!! :whistle:


thats a bit harsh bryan :bust: every one likes to experiment :broon:

nice one just a pitty they are the price of an F :omg:

mad about cars and bikes :)
if it aint broke dont fix it :)

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Replied by Rich in Vancouver on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46618
Excellent information David!
I have just spent the weekend fitting lowering pins to my F. Now I know to store my stock pins away for future Suplex use.
Just a couple of points.... If you are binning your old front shocks there is no need to remove the fuse box for clearance, Simply grasp the outer tube of the old shock with a pair of water pump pliers and use a ratchet to undo the top nut. I was also able to remove the rear shocks without moving the ECU. Awkward but do-able with some circus training!
My last point is to not be surprised if the plastic portion of the knuckles breaks when removing. Of my four, one came out as it should, two suffered some damage (one was able to be glued back together), and the right front was totally destroyed while being removed.
It was a nice touch using non-corrosive plastic for these but unfortunately the metal arm casting does rust and jam the plastic into place. My suspension, particularly the front looks like it came off the Titanic!
David, If your old front spheres are still serviceable would you be interested in selling them? They look 10X better than my rusted lumps!
If your suspension looks like this!

Your knuckles may come out like this!
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Replied by bryan young on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46619

MGF MARK wrote:

bryan young wrote: you should never leave bits out !!!!! :whistle:


thats a bit harsh bryan :bust: every one likes to experiment :broon:

nice one just a pitty they are the price of an F :omg:


David can take it !!!!!

The price of a scrapper yes, but David's car is so nice i would spend that sort of money to keep it going, and its love of the car too ;)

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46632
OK, here's an admission, but don't tell Sheila.

When I got the hydragas off I found that the actual problem had been that the union where the pipe attaches to the nsr sphere was only finger tight.(Not me, I hasten to add)
So I could have saved £750 and used a spanner. :coat: :rant:

However, I had budgeted to do this eventually, so now it's done, and Sheila is very impressed with the ride...of the car!

So Rich, I have 4 spheres in pretty good nick, even got the short pipes with the valves - maybe MOWOG could bring you them over, as he's staying with us in July?
Make me an offer.

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46634
Luckily all four knuckles came out with no damage, but my suspension is considerably less rusty than yours, Rich. That's been sitting at the seaside if I'm any judge. ;)

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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46635
Good advice about removing/replacing the standard dampers, but the fusebox has to move to put the new one in anyway and it's only two bolts.

Why do they make the top of the rod like that anyway? Why not a nice hex nut you can get a socket onto instead of having to fanny about with a tiny 7mm open ended! :rant:

Incidentally I dropped my only 7mm open ended while tightening up the first damper(the fusebox one), and by the noise I knew it hadn't hit the ground, but could I find it? Could I Hell! :rant:

I had to buy another to finish the job. Just putting everything back together and tinkle tinkle, the spanner reappeared from somewhere and fell to the ground. :rant:

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Replied by mowog73 on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46661
I could be persuaded to put four spheres into the luggage...for a price B)

Thanks for a really thorough how-to David, I'm sure I'll be doing the same procedure one day on my F.

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Replied by Rich in Vancouver on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46669
David, I bought my car from Weston, but judging by the paper work it spent most of it's life in South Wales .I imagine that explains the generous amount of rust on the suspension. Fortunately the body is in pretty good shape, other than a horrendous number of stone chips on the front bumper. (Which I am hoping to take care of this summer)
Maybe we can make a deal to get those out of your shed, but I'm not sure if we should get Mark to put them in his luggage.
The X-Ray machine at the airport may get him into hot water!
I will PM you to talk about price.
I think the top stud of the shock is shaped that way because they have always been that way. :rant: I agree, a hex would be a very smart evolution.
I have a special wrench that works very well on the shock studs, (Much better than a standard 7mm wrench) although of course if someone has used mole grips on them previously you are in trouble. Unfortunately my daughter has my good camera at school today, and daughter #2 let the battery run out on the backup camera so it will be a couple of hours till I can get a pic of the wrench for this thread.
OK, camera chartged...Here's what I have found is the best wrench for the top of the shock. It is a Snap-On B1351A 3/16-1/4" brake wrench. The jaws are very thick and get a good grip on the shock stud. The wrench is also much longer than a standard 7mm, at over 20cm, giving very good leverage. Along with a ratcheting box end wrench it makes short work of removing the upper end of the shock.
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Replied by David Aiketgate on topic Re: Suplex Suspension - How to fit

Posted 12 years 2 months ago #46670
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