Hello finally Ive managed to remove the disc I had a three legged puller and the twp bolts through the caliper holes I also had my Oxcy Acet flame on the disc and finally a lump hammer to encourage it .I thing the puller using an extension was the final way of getting it off Even when" the seal"of rust was broken it took a lot of pulling to get the disc off .It seemed to be on the shoulder rather than the face .Anyway its done,I can now flat the paintwork wirh 2000 wet and dry and then poish it .The next job,it to repair the rear bumper which id split Thanks again for all the suggestions re the disc ,once again the power of a forum Len