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Badger wrote: wrote:

I feel a lot more comfortable when I wear a belt in conjunction with my braces; specially if out on the town for a few pints or real ale.

On a more serious note torsional stiffness is quite difficult to achieve on a convertible as its only the floor pan/tunnel and sill structures that keep the car from folding in half when both doors are open.

Some torsional stress analysis has been done on the link below from ultimatemg.com. The TF does very well in this category as it is factory braced in some areas.

It shows the the ZT at the top of the table which is an unfair comparison as having a roof connected by pillars and bonded front and rear screen make a mono-flange passenger cell which is obviously not possible on a convertible.

The TF is a strong contender.

Brian.

http://mgf.ultimatemg.com/group2/body/

Thought I was going mad but when you type monocock with a hyphen you get mono-flange????????????

You have been booked by the spelling police......Monocoque is surely what you meant to say!

Mono = Single (Greek origin)
Coque = Shell (French origin)

I did wonder if a monoflange was something I should have heard of!

Welcome to the Spelling Police to Constable Cobber.

David Aiketgate wrote: wrote:

I did wonder if a monoflange was something I should have heard of!

Welcome to the Spelling Police to Constable Cobber.

If I type c*o*c*k when I submit it you get flange?

Sergeant John of the Pedantry Division 'ere.

Most modern cars are not a true monocoque: a mono mainly uses the skin/shell to absorb stresses.
Rather they are unitary construction where the strength comes from welded/bonded members that form the body. The panels don't contribute so much.

A good example of a true monocoque would be a modern aircraft.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Evenin' all.

perry wrote: wrote:

Hi, I wanted more detailed information on the construction of the structure of stiffening of the body of mgf. for example, tubes of the structure are all of the same diameter?

Most of the tube work is 20mm.. 3.4mm wall thickness.. Usually CDS if I have it
As is often the metal that composes the tube?
What material are the tubes? Steel.. As its cheap and easy to work with
Of which are thick, where the plates are welded to tubes? Mounts are all 6mm plate or 6mm angle
thanks
I have many questions yet, but proceed a little at a time

Improving torsional stiffness is a challenge. Best single mod is a full weld in cage.. But I didn't want this in my car.. Next best option is cross Brace every big open area..

Diesel Destroyer wrote: wrote:

We need a manufacturer to start making/ supplying bolt on braces for our cars

As a man with the skills and knowledge this is something you could be doing yourself - it is a low volume market and parts would only need to be made to order - just cover yourself with a disclaimer saying they are for "show use only".

Badger wrote: wrote:

David Aiketgate wrote: wrote:

I did wonder if a monoflange was something I should have heard of!

Welcome to the Spelling Police to Constable Cobber.

If I type c*o*c*k when I submit it you get flange?

I know Brian, it's our attempt to make a funny swear filter, but unfortunately Flange sometimes sound worse than what it replaces.

you could always swap flange for helmet? i'm sure others have done before.