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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 years 11 months ago #187171

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My TF 135 from 2005 has developped a creaking supension on the left front side. The garage has looked at it: no loose nuts and all balljoints are in good condition. That would leave the shock absorber. The strut looks fine, no leaks, no corrosion, but at the center top nut, near the fusebox, under the bonnet, I can distinctively feel a hard tick when pushing the car up and down to let it creak,
So I removed the strut, lubricated all the rubber bushings, and re-assembled it using copper grease for the nuts and bolts.
But no succes, still creaking.
Next step would be to switch the left and right strut, to see if the creaking moves to the other side. Then it is the strut, otherwise something else in the suspension.
But looking at the strut construction : currently the end of the spring at the lower end is facing inward.
If I switch L &R, the lower side of the spring will be facing outward. I cannot turn te strut 180 degrees, because the lower end of the shock absober is not symmetrical, it only fits one way to the suspension.
So question : are the L+R front struts interchangeable, or is there a specific L and a specficic R version ? I could not find that there is specific L and R on the rave disc. Is there any TF owner, where the lower spring ends face outward ?
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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 years 11 months ago #187172

Have you greased your suspension nipples?
David
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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 years 11 months ago #187173

Looking on Rimmers site, these are the same part number. Is there a part number stamped on your struts.
Greasing nipples sounds lovely, but don’t get carried away!!

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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 years 11 months ago #187174

Yes left and right suspension units can be swapped around, while they are off, check the rubber bushes on the shock absorbers and make sure that the plastic dust caps that cover the shock absorber inner shaft are not split or damaged. If so it may be time for new shock absorbers.

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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 years 11 months ago #187195

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I greased the nipples a month ago, but I did this again this afternoon, this time I pushed in a large amount with the grease gun. See if it helps. I saw the grease coming out at only the left side of the arm-bearing, should it come out on both sides ? Should it come out at all ?
I removed the surplus grease, 2 colors came out, the surplus grey molybdenum grease I pushed in with the grease gun, and a light color, apparently old grease.
The dust caps on the struts are good, also the rubber top-bushes look good, I greased those with ATE brake grease, a tip I got from the MG garage to grease rubber suspension parts like the anti-rollbar bushes. But when swapping, I will replace the top-bushes with PU ones, to eliminate that possible cause, the rubber bush at the bottom of the strut cannot be replaced I think.
I forgot to look up the part number stamped in at the strut...for replacement I indeed need that, some TF versions have the soft ride struts mounted standard, that is rather essential to know, front and back must have the same : soft ride or non soft ride.

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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 3 days 12 hours ago #199410

TNJK, I know it was a long time ago but did you get to find out what was causing your creak issue,I have a similar think on my rear O/S .
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I mouted a set of polybushes on the front shock absorbers. https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-RNF100090LPBR
And when dismounting and mounting the shock absorbers if I remember correctly, I also needed to remove rust on the lower mounting bolt and bush and in general on the springs. Put some grease on the springs and mounting bolts.
So the poly bushes, removing rust and cleaning and greasing solved the issue at that time.

However in the mean time both front suspension arms have been replaced due to MOT. So that will also have helped.
On the rear my TF also has developped a creak, after repairs from the MG garage I took it for the MOT check. The cause of this is a badly performed replacement of the rear suspension arms, but the garage states all is mounted well. So is now an issue to be solved for my legal insurance.

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MGTF Creaking suspension, can L+R be changed over ? 2 days 10 hours ago #199418

thanks for taking the time to reply, you seem to have replaced the damper top bushes according to that part number.
when you took off your front coil overs to service them did you happen to notice if there was any play in the bottom bush( ball joint) on each one ?
I had one replaced on the offending rear o/s and it is completely stiff ,no play at all .
I am beginning to wonder if the creak is actually in the rear upper arm bush , the part that the damper fits in to ( the long bolt fixing)
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Mike

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