The Best Exhaust for the MGF / TF (for me) was the question I set out to find an answer to.
Warning this is a long post so if you only have a minute or two you might want to read it another day.
The standard MGF/TF exhausts were designed to meet low ‘drive by noise level’ regulations and as such did a great job. The only drawback is that for a lot of people, myself included, it just doesn’t make the F/TF sound like a real sports car should.
Before I go any further I think I should explain that by ‘
best exhaust’ I was concentrating on the sound; in everyday use, characteristics, tone and volume and on how the system looked. The performance enhancement of the exhausts on offer have been tested in rolling road sessions and the results of some of these comparative test can be found by doing a quick google search.
Most of the exhausts on offer provide some performance gains but the difference will only be an extra couple of bhp, which wasn’t a priority to me and so formed no part of my overall consideration.
In a previous thread from several months ago
(New Toyosport new MOT)
I gave the reasoning behind my choice to buy a Toyosport to replace the standard exhaust, which went like this;
A.) I don't want something too loud, I do like my neighbours and leave home at silly o'clock in the mornings so didn't want to alienate them. This ruled out nearly all TT's
B.) Having sat behind some F/TF's droning loudly, I did not want to end up with a headache on long journeys, so it had to be something from the quieter camp.
C.) Once described as getting wasps in two empty tin cans and sticking them over your ears, I definitely did not want anything with a high pitched rasp, so that ruled out Miltek.
D.) As I only originally paid £850 for my car I was not prepared to pay almost half that again for the Daytona, so that went also, plus to be honest it sounded nice but didn't really do much for me personally.
E.) Toyosport, had some mixed reviews sounded good when I had heard them and there was an auction on ebay for one which I eventually won for £147. Choice now made.
I must state that I have not owned or even driven an F/TF fitted with a
Trevor Taylor exhaust or a
Miltek
However, I have been to enough meets now to know that the rasping Miltek which also drones loudly was not one for me. I do appreciate that the rasping sound is reminiscent of the old racing MG’s and in small doses is interesting and quite enjoyable.
The
Trevor Taylor – TT exhausts are straight through designs and are generally the loudest exhausts on the market. This alone rules them out for me as I wanted something that would not upset the neighbours. This is not to say I do not like them, in fact one of the best, if not the best sounding exhausts I have ever heard was from a TT Mk4 fitted to MeetwithDamien’s Vintage Racing style TF.
The other thing with these two makes are the number of posts you find when people say the Miltek/TT is too loud and my wife/partner can’t stand it anymore so I am selling it to get a quieter one.
So on to the exhausts I have owned and used.
1) Standard Exhaust. As mentioned above, very civilised but just too quiet. I wanted my car to sound more sporting. Going off topic for just a minute, if you do want to add a sporting sound to your car, which is only noisier than standard when you’re accelerating hard then you could consider just fitting a K&N 57i or other quality cold air induction kit. These kits cost less than a new exhaust, the grin factor is very high along with giving you the best increase in bhp / £.
Back to the standard exhaust, it is easy to live with just a bit boring.
The looks; nice oval pipe finishers which are quite stylish but a bit on the small side.
2) The Toyosport. After you first install a new Stainless Steel exhaust you will find that it takes a few weeks to really settle in. The sound changes over time and you also become accustomed to it and begin to know how to ‘play’ with the various tones it produces.
The Toyosport produces a deep rich low tone which grows in volume as the revs rise. If you push it hard it begins to roar louder. When you step off the gas it produces some wonderful burbles and pops over a wide range. Whilst just driving slowly around it keeps playing its low tones without the need to give it extra gas, although it is very tempting to blip the throttle and let out a gentle little deep roar every now and again.
It is louder than the standard exhaust when cruising on the motorway, but not too loud. There is a bit of a drone but it’s something you quickly become used to and is not annoying like the ones mentioned above.
The looks; large 3” round finishers with the Toyosport logo on the offside pipe.
3) The Daytona. It may come as a surprise to some but yes, I purchased a used Daytona, with quad finishers, which I have been using for the last week. At start up I have found the Daytona to be quieter than the Toyosport. The Daytona box is quite a bit smaller than the Toyosport, with smaller inlet/outlet pipes which goes some way to explaining why the Daytona is not as deep.
The Daytona remains quieter until you start to push the car, the Daytona then comes alive producing a wonderful loud wwwrrrrrooooooommmm. This sound is very intoxicating, but when not pushing the car it goes quiet again, you therefore find yourself speeding around, using extra petrol just so you can get the Daytona to sing its tune.
It also pops and burbles, albeit a lot quieter and less dramatic than with the Toyosport, around the 1750 rpm level which is nice, but fades away quickly as the revs drop.
On the motorway, cruising at 70 mph it is much quieter than the Toyosport.
The looks; this is one area where the Daytona excels. It does not have finishers, that is to say the exhaust is supplied with just two short outlet pipes for which you need to purchase finishers. You can thus fit single or dual (giving you quad pipes at the back) finishers or purchase aftermarket finishers, thus the appearance is really whatever you want it to be.
Note: You could remove the finishers of any of the other exhausts and do the same if you wanted to.
Cost. The Daytona does not come cheap, from Mike Satur on ebay, a new one with quad finishers is over £420. The Toyosport on the other hand comes in at around £165, but there are regular auctions where it sells for around £130 - £150.
Decat. I was also curious to hear the difference with a decat, so I ran both the Toyosport and the Daytona with one. The Toyosport just became a bit louder and gave out a slightly more harsh tone on hard acceleration. The Daytona became also became slightly louder, however the wonderful tone of its song was altered detrimentally in my opinion and so I don’t believe a decat does any of them any real favours.
So which is the best?
Will Hay (on .org) said;
“There is no best, only current personal opinion and of course those that have bought a particular brand and can't possibly imagine it wasn't the correct purchase.”
The usual advice is to get to a few meets/runs and get to hear the different ones. This is good advice as the YouTube clips really don’t do any of the exhausts justice. What an exhaust sounds like from inside the car is different to what you hear from the outside. If you can, ask if you can get a ride in a car with the exhaust you’re thinking of getting, that way you can begin to get a real feel for how it will sound in yours.
Which do I have fitted now?
The Daytona produces a fantastic sound and I can appreciate the loyal following this exhaust has, but I feel it is a slightly artificial sound. It is like a musical instrument which needs to be pushed hard to make it sing. On runs I’ve often thought the cars with Daytona’s fitted sounded like they were trying too hard and now I know why. Of the two, the Daytona is undoubtedly easy to live with, being civilised most of the time and responding when you push on.
In the end I refitted the Toyosport as I missed the deep tones when just tootling around and the wonderful pop and burble on lift off. The sound produced is not as musical as the Daytona but it is an honest sporty sound that is there in all conditions.
So in conclusion
The Daytona and the Toyosport are both different and in their own ways good, however
The Best Exhaust for the MGF / TF is …….
yet to be manufactured.